Dmitry Avdeev (†2022) on depression, neuroses, and other nervous disorders

I don’t wish you
wealth, fame, success, or even good health, but only peace in your soul. That’s
the most important thing. If you have peace, you will be happy.
- St. Alexiy of St.
Zosima Hermitage
We increasingly talk and hear about chronic fatigue,
neuroses, depression, and other diseases that arise “due to nerves.” And
doctors, based on numerous studies, state that a huge number of physical
illnesses develop precisely as a result of prolonged nervous strain. Moreover,
about half of the diseases currently studied by psychiatry are borderline
conditions (those that arise due to nerves).
A discussion with the well‑known Moscow psychiatrist,
Candidate of Medical Sciences D. A. Avdeev, about these disorders, ways to
overcome them, and the Christian approach to them was recorded some years ago
for a spiritual educational program on Belarusian television, however only
fragments of it were aired.
In 2022, Dmitry Alexandrovich passed away prematurely from
cancer. He was a professional who believed in God and sought to foster a
Christian attitude towards mental illnesses, which led him to develop a model
of Orthodox psychotherapy. This article contains a more complete version of his
video interview.
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May it be unto you
according to your faith…
Modern man’s life is full of
stress and emotional overload. And it’s no wonder—the abundance of events and
information, like a powerful tsunami, overwhelms our thoughts and feelings
every day. There’s practically no time to stop and catch our breath. We’re
always in a hurry…
It’s also getting colder, and
it’s raining. Autumn is a time when emotional crises and chronic illnesses
become more pronounced, and overall well‑being and mood deteriorate.
But is it only the pace of our
lives and climatic conditions that are to blame for the fact that the number of
diseases arising “due to nerves” is rapidly increasing, and borderline
conditions are increasingly developing into mental illnesses? Here is what is
written on this matter in the “Foundations of the Social Concept of the Russian
Orthodox Church”:
The Church views mental illnesses
as one of the manifestations of the general sinful corruption of human nature.
From the history of medicine, it
is known that from the moment of the baptism of Rus’, medicine in Rus’ was
under the direct patronage of the Orthodox Church. Holy Prince Vladimir
declared in his Charter that doctors are church people, subordinate to the
bishop. And monasteries provided care not only for the poor but also for the
sick, which also included those “deprived of reason.” The process of separating
psychiatry from the Church began only at the end of the 18th century, when
psychiatrists decided to become more “objective” and rely solely on data from
clinical and laboratory observations.
After October 1917, [1] a person
was reduced to pure physiology—mere flesh, without any hint of the existence of
a soul. Psychiatry began to view a person’s personality from the same
perspective. However, the term “psyche” means “soul” in Greek.
Currently, spirituality is once
again being discussed in psychiatry. Clinics are opening house churches,
providing spiritual care for patients, and holding scientific and theological
conferences with the participation of clergy and psychiatrists.
“By nature” or
from sin?
—As a psychiatrist and a
believer, how would you assess the causes of neurosis, depression, and other
nervous disorders? Is it stress, the hectic pace of our lives, or something
else?
—One might ask oneself: was life
really simpler in the time of Ivan the Terrible? Or in any other era, for
example, in the Napoleonic era? Of course not. But it would be disingenuous if
I said that we are not affected by speed, by the pace of life. There are even
such concepts as “exhaustion depression,” “informational neuroses,” but these
are just the backdrop, the environment. Archpriest Dimitry Smirnov made
the remarkable comparison of modern man’s spiritual state to a jug that’s been
shattered. Unfortunately, it’s been reduced to a pile of shards.
Psychiatry, psychotherapy, and
psychology do not talk about sin. But the main thing to pay attention to is a
person’s spiritual state, which cannot be good without spiritual peace, without
a clear conscience, without the person striving to overcome pride, vanity, and
other sinful passions.
—So, are borderline states
sinful states? Or are mental disorders a type of illness? How should we treat
them, and how should they be cured?
—I’ve been studying borderline
states for about twenty years now, and I see that these are diseases, but they
are often sinful diseases. When sin occurs in the depths of the human spirit,
it disorganizes the will and emotions. And I’ve long noticed in my practice
that neuroses and many forms of depression (in particular, neurotic depression)
have spiritual roots. And from those roots, certain physical manifestations
arise. After all, a person is a combination of the spiritual, the mental, and
the physical. This is how it all descends in a hierarchy, step by step: spirit,
soul, and body.
I can give you one telling
example. Once, a patient came to me complaining of a neurotic disorder. During
the conversation, he said: “Doctor, if you only knew how much I’m tormented by
envy! It’s eating me up from the inside! After all, I envy everyone—those who
have a better apartment, a more successful job, higher earnings. And it weighs
so heavily on me! I’m just burning up inside.”
So, should we give such a patient
a sedative tablet three times a day? And put a checkmark, as if the problem
were solved? That would be completely wrong. Nothing will happen without
understanding that he is in the grip of sinful passions, without repentance,
without work on himself.
It is necessary to identify the
three main causes in the development of mental illnesses. Mental illnesses may
be a consequence of some organic disorders in the body, i.e., they are diseases
“of nature,” which are either hereditary in nature or associated with
individual biological factors. These include schizophrenia, manic‑depressive
psychosis, epileptic psychosis, and senile psychosis.
The term “from nature” was
introduced by John Climacus. We read in his works that he observed that in some
monastics, certain states of spiritual turmoil did not pass after prayer, the
sign of the cross, or after the performance of church sacraments. We have a
remarkable example in the life of Venerable Theodosius of the Kiev
Caves, who spent three years caring for a monk who suffered from what would
now be called catatonia.
A few examples. A typical symptom
of schizophrenia is delusion (delusion is a false conclusion). It is impossible
to try to rationally convince a person suffering from delusions. Depressive
psychosis. It is associated with changes in the brain tissue’s neurotransmitters.
The mother says to such a patient: “Well, pull yourself together.” And she
starts to feel offended, angry, and guilty—but what the patient needs is
medical help. There is a change in the emotional state in the case of epilepsy,
when the patient exhibits aggressive behavior, requires medical assistance and
active treatment of the disease.
The second group—a vast group of
mental disorders—are illnesses resulting from passions that have enslaved the
soul.
The third group consists of
illnesses caused by demonic assault, brought about by demonic influence.
Here, it’s important not to get
things mixed up. I’ve come across situations more than once where, say, a
patient is experiencing the onset of schizophrenia, the debut of a psychotic
process; and their relatives are church‑going believers. And so they decide
that they shouldn’t go to a doctor but should instead go for an exorcism. Of
course, prayer is needed, as is church commemoration and the blessing of a
spiritual advisor. But this is a mistake, and there’s a danger lurking here.
It’s important to understand that mental disorders are, after all, a separate
group of diseases.
And at the same time, these
illnesses may be a cross laid upon us by the Lord. Sometimes I witness very
remarkable examples: a person seems to have a severe mental illness—but how
they grow spiritually against that backdrop! I remember one of my patients. He
is a moderately disabled person due to a mental illness, and as a doctor I
tried to console and reassure him. But he looked at me and said: “Doctor,
don’t. The situation I’m in is the most salvific for me.” And, of course, the
Christian path is not closed to such a person, and the Kingdom of Heaven is not
closed to them. No, this is our brother in Christ who needs help, prayer,
compassion, and support.
Depression doesn’t
always mean despondency.
—Dmitry Alexandrovich, let's
take a closer look at depression. What are its characteristics, and how does it
arise?
—In some cases, depression is a
painful disorder. And this is due to the fact that in the brain structures,
neurotransmitters such as serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine are reduced
to almost zero, and the person experiences a pessimistic, depressed mood. They
are inactive. Relatives and acquaintances try to somehow stimulate them: They
tell them to get a job, to pray more. But they can’t do it because they are
sick. At the first stage, medical assistance is needed—psychiatric and
psychotherapeutic—and as recovery progresses, psychological and spiritual
support will become more prominent.
And then there are depressions
(and there are significantly more of them, in fact the vast majority) as a
consequence of the passions of despondency and sorrow that have enslaved the
soul. This point is very significant. It is necessary to distinguish—and this
applies to the clergy as well—between sin and illness.
In general, depression has become
one of the leading health issues; there are about 500 million people worldwide
suffering from depressive disorders. The use of psychotropic medications and
antidepressants has gotten out of control for medical professionals and cannot
be accounted for in any way. Moreover, depression is becoming younger; today we
are talking about childhood depression.
—Sometimes, depressive states
or a nervous breakdown can lead a person to think about suicide. What would you
advise someone who might be on the verge of suicide?
—This is very serious… But I
would advise you to cross yourself with faith and say: “Lord, Jesus Christ, Son
of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!” Then go to church and, without holding
anything back, sincerely tell the priest all your worries and concerns during
confession. If you need first aid, that’s exactly where to find it.
Speaking about the problem of
suicide in general, it is known that only ten percent of those who commit
suicide are mentally ill people. Ninety percent are mentally healthy but
spiritually deeply damaged people. And do you know how many of them there are?
Thirty-nine to forty per every 100,000 people! That is tens of thousands — a
city of suicides every year! We are talking about successful suicides. But
there are also attempted suicides, and they are much more numerous.
There are many mental illnesses
toward which we need to form a Christian, Orthodox attitude.
Neurosis =
conflict
—What are the characteristics
of neuroses?
—Neurosis has many spiritual
roots. Probably, to put it very briefly, neurosis is a clash between what is
desired and reality. And the more powerful the clash, the stronger the
manifestation of neurosis. It is always an internal conflict. Sometimes I give
an example like this: I clench two fists, press them together, and ask the
patient which hand should I break—the right one or the left one? Both are
equally painful! There is no way out of this dead‑end situation.
In these cases, humility, inner
peace and kindness are needed. Can one imagine such a state of affliction in St. Seraphim of Sarov, who
greeted everyone with the words: “My joy, Christ is risen!”? An Orthodox
Christian may be ill, may be poor, or homeless—it is all the will of God. But
with the right spiritual disposition, in the soul of an Orthodox Christian
“roses bloom and nightingales sing.” This is an indisputable truth. Remember
the Savior’s words: “My peace I give to you!”
One can suffer from neurosis for
a long time until a person understands the true causes of neurotic disorders,
until he realizes that it is his perception, value system, attitudes, and some
incorrect behavioral stereotypes that are to blame for the illness. A daughter
hasn’t spoken to her mother for ten years because of some principles, and she
experiences terrible inner tension, has a headache, and her conscience is
troubled… But what’s the solution? To go up to her mother, hug her, kiss her,
and ask for forgiveness—and everything will fall into place. And people
stubbornly refuse to relent, ending up with illnesses or heart attacks. After
all, today it is known that eighty percent of all diseases arise from stress.
I remember how one woman wrote to
me in a letter: “Here I am, sick, and I don’t understand at all what clash of
the desired and the real you’re talking about in the case of neuroses.” I
replied: “My dear (I think her name was Liudmila), God has allowed you to be
sick right now, and you’re so burdened by it that you want to be healthy at any
cost… Humility! Humility is the main remedy.” Walking the Christian path to
Christ—that is the main remedy for neuroses.
“You can’t make a
silk purse from a sow’s ear.”
—And what if a person is lost?
Maybe they didn’t have faith, or they’ve just started coming to church. They’ve
backed themselves into a corner—and they’re in a deep, years‑long depression or
suffering from a neurosis. Can they pull themselves out on their own? Or do
they still need outside help?
—This is, in fact, what my
colleagues and I have been doing for many years. Of course, the Lord guides all
of us. And He will not abandon this person, provided that person prays,
sincerely believes, and turns to the sacraments of the Church. Look, the “Foundations
of the Social Concept of the Russian Orthodox Church” beautifully states that
an Orthodox psychotherapist or psychologist is the co‑worker of a clergyman. A
meeting with him often precedes a meeting with a priest. And often people come
to me who are not yet ready to go to confession, but they already have
spiritual questions. They come to me with these questions during their
appointments, and we try to resolve them. Of course, this makes life easier for
such a person, because an Orthodox psychologist or someone who has been
attending church for a long time and has read the Holy Fathers can give good,
beneficial advice.
—Some psychotherapists claim
that if a child develops mental disorders or complexes as a result of improper
upbringing, they are practically incurable as the child grows older. What’s
your comment as a doctor and a person of faith?
—Perhaps I should start by
answering your question from a different angle. The thief who spent his whole
life stealing and killing, when he found himself on the cross to the right of
the Savior in the last three hours of his life, repented, changed his ways, and
was the first to enter paradise. Therefore, in my opinion, claims that drug
addiction, alcoholism, certain neurotic disorders, and childhood experiences
are incurable do not correspond to reality. In my view, such psychotherapists
have mercenary motives and want to keep the patient tied to them.
Take, for example,
psychoanalysis. When I talked to French psychoanalysts and asked them: “Well,
how effective is it?”—I saw bewilderment and a smile in their eyes; what
effectiveness? The client attends psychoanalysis sessions for three, five, or
seven years. And a psychoanalytic procedure costs quite a lot of money, lasts
about an hour, and takes place twice or three times a week. It turns into a
lifestyle.
Of course, there’s the issue of
the starting point—“You can’t make a silk purse from a sow’s ear,” as they
sometimes say. If a child has pious parents and is familiar with the sacraments
of the Church, then in general such a child has more opportunities—that is, he
has certain initial advantages in life. And yet, as long as a person is alive,
as long as a person is breathing, the Lord gives him a chance to change, for
transformation and revival.
Orthodoxy is not
something you can just pick up on the fly.
—The fear of God versus fear
as a phobia: What is the difference?
—The fear of God brings peace and
tranquility to the heart. Fear as a phobia is demonic fear. Who is the most
neurotic? The devil. And the fear instilled by him gives rise to precisely this
state in the heart.
In my books, I compare and
contrast repentant lamentation over sins and neurotic self‑criticism. Repentant
lamentation over sins gives rise to peace, tranquility, and joy in the heart.
But neurotic self‑criticism is like grinding water in a mortar, like running in
circles, sorrow for sorrow and nothing else. It doesn’t bring anything
constructive.
—But how can a person figure
out which fear is which?
—For that, you need to study the
holy fathers. And Orthodoxy isn’t something you can just pick up on the fly,
it’s not something you can learn in five minutes. You need to study it, try to
live in a Christian way, and go to church. And gradually, little by little,
your way of thinking will develop in the right direction.
“Be attentive to yourself, so
that hot‑temperedness, irritability, and resentment do not gain the upper hand
over you—for otherwise you will lead a troubled and disorderly life. But
cultivate generosity, meekness, lack of malice, and everything that is fitting
for Christians, so that you may lead a peaceful and serene life” —St. Ephraim
the Syrian.
Elena Nasledysheva spoke with Dr. Dmitry Avdeev, M.D., Ph.D.
Translation by Myron Platte.
1. That is, the October Revolution in Russia.
Source: https://orthochristian.com/180676.html
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