A Message from the defunct “Occidentalis” Western Rite Orthodox Yahoo Discussion Group
Message #6416 of 10909
From: ...
Date: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:01pm
Subject: Re: Status of Liturgy
of St. Tikhon
Dear XXXX, this is a touchy
issue, but I'll try to treat it gently. My spiritual father here at the
monastery is the man formerly known as Fr. Alexey Young, the disciple of Fr.
Seraphim Rose. Fr. Alexey Young used to be in the Antiochian Western Rite
Vicariate, and was (and is) very interested in the WR. He left the AWRV for a
few reasons, and I will try to touch on them tactfully.
The first thing that should be
said is that the AWRV liturgy has been blessed for use by the Antiochian
hierarchs. The main thing to remember about a liturgy is that, so long as it
contains the basic necessary elements of a Christian Eucharistic liturgy, and
is celebrated with the blessing of the bishops, it is a valid liturgy.
Theoretically, we could compose a liturgy on the spot, and if our bishop
permitted us to celebrate it, it would truly be a Eucharistic liturgy. I mean,
in times of persecution, I don't think we'll be sticklers about all the rubrics
and proper vestments and whatnot. The early Christian liturgies had lots of
room for impromptu prayers. So, we have to not be extremist about this, and
start calling liturgies "unorthodox" that have no positively,
uncompromisingly, unavoidably heretical elements to them.
That said, the Antiochian WR has
served, and continues to serve, a good purpose of evangelizing people familiar
with a past liturgical tradition, and helping them into Orthodoxy. This is a
good and valuable thing, and I don't think that its mission is over.
Now, my observation, and Fr.
Alexey Young's observation when he was in the AWRV, is that a lot of people are
merely "hiding out" in it. That is to say, many exasperated
Episcopalians, Anglicans and Papists, distraught over the flood of changes and
impiety in their churches, simply wanted a place to be left alone. They wanted
a place where they could keep doing what they were doing, without the rug being
pulled out from under them again and again. So, many people have noticed a
tendency for people with this mindset (which is certainly not everyone in the
AWRV) to not really become Orthodox through and through, but only in merest
intellectual confession.
Orthodoxy, by nature, tends not
to tamper. Orthodoxy became a safe haven for many AWRV converts. Some of these
people, though (and who of us wouldn't sympathize) were more attached to their
familiar practices than to Orthodoxy. Fr. Alexey left in despair when he
realized that many people in the AWRV were not interested in assimilating
Orthodox piety. It was a sort of Western Obsession. It was for Plainchant
hobbyists, or Cranmerophiles, or English history buffs who just liked all
things English - you get the idea. Essentially, they would agree to excise the Filioque
from their creed, but they didn't want to do anything else differently. They
did not become Orthodox; rather, they remained Episcopalians or Papists, but
without a Filioque and other glaring doctrinal errors. He noticed a lack
of harmony with the spirit and piety of the Orthodox Church.
Having known Fr. Seraphim Rose
well, and having had contact with St. John, he was very aware of the ancient
Orthodox heritage of the West, and found the modern, "Traditional"
forms of Episcopalianism and Papism to be much further removed from the ancient
West's spirit, than even the modern East was. In the first printing of the book
"The Place of Blessed Augustine in the Orthodox Church," Fr. Alexey
Young wrote the introduction (incidentally, he also wrote an article in the
book "An Introduction to the Western Rite," back when he was still in
the AWRV. This book is still available). When I arrived here, he encouraged me
to read Fr. Seraphim Rose' introduction to the Vita Patrum of St. Gregory of
Tours. He is deeply in love with the Orthodox West.
But he didn't find this same
excitement in the AWRV. He found an attachment to their familiar forms of
piety, regardless of their harmony with Orthodoxy. He remarked to me that one
bishop had instructed one of the WR parishes he frequently served at to remove
the protestant-style confession of faith from their prayerbooks. The
congregation said they would, and then ignored him. For all he knew, that
bishop still thinks they have been removed. I don't want to sound inflammatory,
but he tells me that a few of the men (including one priest) were actually
freemasons. When he brought this to the attention of the (then) dean of the
vicariate, he was told to mind his own business and butt out.
So, he gave up and left.
Obviously, I am interested in the
Western Rite, and so I asked Fr. Alexey what St. John had to say about it, and
what Fr. Seraphim Rose passed down about it. He told me that St. John had
definitely envisaged the earliest approved forms of the WR as temporary. He
wanted more work and scholarship to be done, and when better forms became
available, for those to begin to replace them. St. John celebrated every
liturgy before he approved it, so one can hardly say that even the
"liturgical archaeology" known as the modern-day reconstruction of
the Gallican Rite is "unorthodox." A God-Illumined, modern pillar of
Orthodoxy celebrated it and approved it. Fr. Alexey tells me that when a rubric
was uncertain, St. John would know during the celebrating what the proper
interpretation was, and would often make little "tweaks," speaking
with a spiritual authority on what was supposed to happen. So, St. John wanted
better forms to be used, but he apparently had a heavenly pipeline helping him
to put together the best liturgy he could with the material he had! This is why
he insisted on celebrating them beforehand, by the way.
But he wanted more authentic
forms to be used. In fact, Fr. Seraphim told Fr. Alexey that St. John believed
that the Gallican Liturgy should, in general, not be celebrated as a normal,
daily rite because it had been suppressed by the West while it was still
Orthodox. That is, because the West eliminated this rite of its own accord
before the Schism, St. John believed that the Holy Spirit was behind this. The
approval of the Gallican rite as such was intended to be a temporary measure
until they could sort out the development of the Roman liturgy, especially as
indigenously celebrated in France. St. John believed, according to Fr. Seraphim
Rose, that each people had their own Orthodox genius, and contribution to the
faith. He felt that Western people would not be able to easily or fully
assimilate into Orthodoxy until they reclaimed these aspects of their genius
(incidentally, this is why I think Western Orthodox people, even if they have
to use Byzantine liturgy right now, should try to decorate their parishes in
Ancient Western Orthodox styles, and employ Gregorian Chant rather than
Byzantine, and include Latin Trisagions in their liturgies rather than
every other language besides Latin!).
Now, my experience with the AWRV
has been more positive, because I think that many in the Vicariate are starting
to wake up to the far richer and more beautiful inheritance of the Orthodox
west. Also, the very nature of the AWRV liturgy is that it primarily is going
to appeal to the people who have a "nostalgia" for those Episcopalian
or Papist liturgies, in which they were raised, and with which they are
comfortable. But Vatican II was a long time ago now, and many of the people old
enough to be nostalgic for that liturgy are not with us anymore. While
Episcopalianism and Papism certainly retained much that was beautiful from
their ancient Western heritage, they lost much of it, as well. And I think that
now, what is happening with the WR, is that people who might not have had any
liturgical background at all (like myself) are finding their own Orthodox past,
and not just a comfortable childhood liturgy. So, I think many people now are
finding that they hunger for their Orthodox heritage, and that (comparatively)
modern forms of Episcopalian and Papist liturgy are not as appealing. I mean,
when we read about the ancient Saints of the West, and want to have a devotion
for them, the Old Western Rite has full services written for them. They have
all sorts of prayers and other liturgical adornments, which the more modern
Episcopalian and Roman Catholic usages have abolished altogether. I suppose
they could start restoring them, but then, they would be returning to the
older, orthodox liturgy, right?
So, I don't think any balanced
person would attack the AWRV's liturgy as unorthodox. It has not implemented
all of the required changes set forth by the Russian Church committee which
examined their books years ago, but they do have a blessing from the Antiochian
bishops to celebrate it. Therefore, it's Orthodox. I think that the AWRV can be
praised for having provided a safe harbor for many people seeking the true
faith and looking to be pious and faithful to God in a tradition more in line
with their own heritage than with Russian or Greek heritages.
That said, I also think that the
pool of people to whom such liturgies can appeal (people nostalgic for their
familiar worship styles) is rapidly shallowing. And if the old, Orthodox usages
are richer, more beautiful, more complete and more fully expressive of Orthodox
piety and devotion to the saints, then naturally when Western people start
hungering for their ancient Orthodox heritage, their hearts will be drawn to
the liturgies that most express that. And, while there is no persecution going
on, if we can celebrate the Mass in a manner richer and more deeply expressive
of the Faith, then why not prefer it?
So, I don't think that the
sentiment is so much "Anti-St. Tikhon Liturgy" as it is
"Pro-Genuine-Old-Orthodox-Liturgy." Though, some people, to be sure,
do slip into acerbic polemics. The sad thing is, that they make it harder for
the more authentically ancient and Orthodox forms of the Western Rite to make
progress, when they become such nasty examples of their own platforms. And, it
goes both ways. If you talk to the right AWRV person (like Ben Johnson, whose
objections Fr. Aidan has been answering), you'll hear just as much vitriol and
accusation. For, you see, if many AWRV people's main concern is to see their
own, comfortable liturgy remain untouched, then they might feel like the
appearance and success of an ancient, Orthodox Western liturgy would once again
imperil their own observances, when the comparative nakedness of their
observance stood out against it. But I don't think that this is likely; I don't
think Antioch would simply dissolve their usage. That would be pastorally
insensitive. I think it is perfectly possible for both rites to live together.
So, just pray that everyone can
keep being nice to each other. And when people fail, forgive and don't allow
their faults to compromise the good cause of loving our Western, Orthodox
heritage, no matter how we do that.
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